"But, I don't think any arranger should ever write a drum part for a drummer because if a drummer can't create his own Interpretation of the chart and he plays everything that's written, he becomes mechanical; he has no freedom."
"You either swing a band or don't swing a band and that's what's lacking today.. There aren't any guys who get back there and play with any kind of guts."
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Source: Burl Ives (2017). “Wayfaring Stranger”, p.120, Pickle Partners Publishing
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