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"Whether it's a penalty or a tax, it's all one in the same. It's coming out of somebody's hard-earned money in their pocketbooks and that's the point. So in some ways, to me, it's a distinction without a difference."
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Source: Everything you need to know about the Patriot Act debate. edition.cnn.com. May 23, 2015.
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