"There's an independence to surfing, it's just you and the ocean. There aren't a bunch of rules."
"[In 2004] That's how I got a relationship with Steve Jobs. Because I listened really hard to him cause he's the smartest guy I ever worked for."
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Source: Reframing Organizations: Artistry, Choice, and Leadership. Book by Lee Bolman and Terrence E. Deal, 1991.
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